Usually transcripts are expected to be exactly like the originals, mistakes included. I suppose translated copies could be considered Abstracts or Excerpts of the records.

From mistakes I made when I first started genealogy, I've learned to cite sources and use original document or copies, and I'm wondering how others using this site for their family histories handle that, seeing that the information, even if completely accurate, are not official documents. Right now ...

This is without translation. I would also like to know if these lists are available in a special area on this site? 1897 210. 1. Отт Конрад Фридрихов, хозяин, 30 лет, женат, землед., грам. 2. Отт Иоганна Яковлевна, жена, 28 лет, замужем, не грам. 3. Отт Александр Конрадов, сын, 3 г. 4. Фридрих Конра...

I noticed in the 1897 record below that Konrad Ott is listed as the owner. Does that mean he acquired or inherited his own farm? And what does "ranked among the rural society, living at home" , and the number 210 mean? I'm only asking because I've noticed that Google Translate will come up...

I've gone through the various censues, and this looks like the family chain: Johann Peter Horst 1731 <married> Regina Susanna Schmidt 1732 V Michael Horst 1766 <married> Christina Tierbach 1773 V Johannes Jacob Horst 1799 <married> Catharina Margareta 1811 <married> Margareta Wiegand 1803 V Friedric...

1881, Podstepnoe number of about 76, audit 1857 number 47 Horst Jacob Fridrikhov born in 1847 October 15 by his wife Amalia, born Stadler (?), Fam. reads as 30 years March 23, 1882 had a son, Alexander October 21, 1889 he was born the son of Christian (?), the record difficult to read his daughter 1...

This information means there are some family trees out there that need revisions. Back to the 1881 list then, Conrad Horst (1877) is not Jacob's brother, but the son of his brother Casper(1852) and wife Christina Neuwirth , who may have been mistaken as the parents of both by others? So I have to as...

I am looking for the parents of Jacob Horst (1847) . In the 1881 record I saw where Jacob is listed as Horst Jacob Fridrikhov , and I'm not sure if this means he is the son of Frederick , as I have seen others list his parents as Kaspar Horst and Anna Neubert. Usually their dates of birth do not mak...

All valid points. My lack of knowledge of the family customs a century ago was the basis for trying to understand the situation better. I can't imagine a better place to ask questions like this than these forums.

As I understand it, Frederick Ott (1845), the son of Caspar Ott (Geynrihova) (1816), married Anna Sophia Elert - 2 Sep 1865. By 23 Jun 1868 Anna Sophia Ott (widow) married Johann Jakob Markstaler, according to church records. Frederick died between 1865 and 1868, so Conrad Ott (1866) must have been ...

Thank you for taking the time to check for me. Konrad Ott lists his place of birth as Rosenheim, but it looked as if his father may have been living in another village. If his father died soon after Conrad's birth, it would explain why no siblings had turned up yet. Would there be record of him eith...

I have the Passenger List of Conrad Ott's (Olt) family to America, that suggests that his father Freidrick was still alive in 1907 , possibly living in Stahl am Karaman . There is no record of him in Roseheim at that time, and it is believed that his wife was a widow shortly after Conrad's birth in ...

KassieJo[/b] post_id=212816 time=1579634805 user_id=9788]yes, sound like it and it's possible. Hoewever it is highly unusual, that Konrad is mentioned in several list as nephew of Heinrich, without having his own household. That is generally the case if the parents died early. To be certain, you'd ...

Thank you Alexander 46
That would be my grandmother and her older sister.
Anna Ott married David Fischer in 1909. David and his family came over from Reinwald.

I noticed in the LenaW posting of the 1897 Census "3. Ott Alexander Conrad , son 3 years". In the 1910 U.S. Census Johanna Ott notes that of 11 children, to date, 7 are living (before the birth of Ernest (1913). Alexander must be one that did not make it. Alexander 46 posted the 1881 villa...

Thanks KassieJo
Konrad's father is listed as his nearest relative, which sounds like he was still alive in 1907. Although the manifest says Rosenheim, it looks as if Karaman Stahl was scribbled in front of that as an after-thought.

Thank you LenaW . I compared the ages, and they are within a year of each other. The ship's manifest is based on their last birthday. My grandmother would have turned 12 about one month before arriving here, and the variation among the family is consistent with that. I am curious if Konrad Friedrich...

I've been following the discusions about the Ott and Horst families from Rosenheim since I found this site. My grandmother was Dorothea Ott, daughter of Conrad and Johanna Ott, and granddaughter of Jacob and Katherine Horst. I thought I had the family line connecting to Conrad Ott with Frederick (18...