Haag aus Hölzel

[Е.Haag]

Добрый день.

ищет ли кто-нибудь еще информацию по первоселенцу

Андреас Гааг 36 лет
хлебопащец из Баварии (деревня Мигерен???)
с женой Вальпургией 30 лет и дочерью Маргаритой 6 лет.
семья прибыла в колонию Кочетная (Hölzel) в 1767 году.

Спасибо

Евгения Гааг

[HaagD]

Добрый день Елена.
Моя семья Гааг из села Hölzel

[Johannes-09]

Добрый день, Е.Haag, девичь фамилия моей бабушки Haag и, по ее словам, они в Штреккерау прибыли из села Deller.

[silvia ruppel]

Buenas tardes, busco datos sobre Magdalena Haag/Hague y sus padres casada con Andreas Dumrauf 1805.
Tenía en mi árbol que la esposa de Andreas era Magdalena Müller 1809, pero en un certificado aparece Haag y no tengo dato alguno de ella. Muchas gracias

[Ксана]

[quote=silvia ruppel post_id=263188 time=1628355757 user_id=26298]Buenas tardes me podrían decir quienes fueron los padres de Magdalena Haag casada con Nikolaus Dumrauf 1805 ?? padres de Ludwig Dumrauf 1836 esposo de Bárbara Roppel/Roppelt ambos de Hölzel.
Averiguo por Magdalena Haag puesto que tenía otro apellido como su esposa, en varios lados aparece como Magdalena Müller, pero me dicen que el correcto de Haag y no encuentro nada de ella ni de sus padres. Muchas gracias.[/quote]
[quote=silvia ruppel post_id=263190 time=1628355939 user_id=26298]Buenas tardes, busco datos sobre Magdalena Haag/Hague y sus padres casada con Andreas Dumrauf 1805.
Tenía en mi árbol que la esposa de Andreas era Magdalena Müller 1809, pero en un certificado aparece Haag y no tengo dato alguno de ella. Muchas gracias[/quote]
Добрый вечер! Скорее всего, точного ответа не даст никто, за годы, когда примерно могло состояться венчание не сохранились церковные записи (или пока не известно, где они). Возможно Магдалена родилась 11.09.1808 в семье Йоханнеса Гааг *1785-*1838 и Катарины Шефер *1785.

1798, hh22
Karl Haagen/Haag h 40
Helena Bergen/Berger? sp 31
Johannes s 13
Michael s 6
Peter s 4
Regina d 11
Barbara d 2
Franziska d 1
Margaretha d 1

1834, hh31
Johannes Haag h 49
Katharina sp 49
Johannes s 23 1/2
Anna Maria dl 25
Elisabetha gd 2
Eva gd 1
Heinrich s 20
Andreas s 16
Jakob s 14
Anna Maria d 10
Michael b to hh41
Johannes np to hh41
Nikolaus np to hh41
Peter b to hh89
Heinrich b 33
Anna Maria sisl 30
Heinrich np 14
Georg Philipp np 10
Alexander np 6
Michael np 3/4

hh41
Michael Haag h †1830 from hh31
Agnesa sp 42
Johannes s 21
Elisabetha dl 21
Nikolaus s †1818
Nikolaus s 15
Margaretha d 13
Katharina d 11
Andreas s 6

hh89
Peter Haag h 40 from hh31
Magdalena sp 38
Katharina d 13
Anna Maria d 9
Barbara d 3
Anna Maria d 1 1/2

[silvia ruppel]

Oksana Kloster muchísimas gracias por su pronta respuesta y tan completa información. Saludos cordiales.

[Надежда Alexx]

Р-877-1-378 "Протоколы по сбору чрезв.налога 1919-1921 г.г."

[elena elena]

У моего прапрадеда была родная сестра Доротея Швайгерт 1804 г р. , ее муж был Иван Гааг 1800 г р

[elena elena]

Е.Haag, кроме этой семьи Гааг , ещё 2 семьи прибыли

[elena elena]

Ксана, сын Карл был у Ивана Гааг первопоселенца

[elena elena]

Ксана, у Петра записаны две дочери Анна Мария, или старшая умерла, до рождения младшей

[Ксана]

у Петра записаны две дочери Анна Мария, или старшая умерла, до рождения младшей

Если дочери с одинаковыми именами записаны в ревизской сказке, значит на момент проведения переписи были обе живы

Ревизские сказки — документы, отражающие результаты проведения переписей податного населения, в которых указывались ФИО главы семьи и его возраст, ФИО членов семьи, их возраст и отношение к главе семьи. https://familio.media/about-genealogy/g ... ie-skazki/

сын Карл был у Ивана Гааг первопоселенца

Да, был

"Widower Johannes Haagen, a farmer, and his son Karl (age 8) arrived from Lübeck at the port of Oranienbaum on 15 September 1766 aboard a ship under the command of Skipper Gabriel Wild.
Johannes Haagen, his [new] wife Franziska, and son Karl (age 11) are recorded on the list of colonists being transported from St. Petersburg to Saratov in 1767.
Johannes Haagen, his wife Franziska, and son Karl (age 11) are recorded on the 1767 census of Hölzel in Household No. 14. They had settled in Hölzel on 11 September 1767.
Karl Haagen and his family are recorded on the 1798 census of Hölzel in Household No. Hz22.
The 1767 census records that Johannes Haagen came from the German village of Wiesendorf in the Bamberg region." https://volgagermaninstitute.org/surnam ... 3%B6lzel-1

[Ксана]

Heinrich Hahn [sic], a farmer, his wife Barbara, and children (Johann, age 15; Ulrich, age 10; Barbara, age 8; Georg, age 4; Margaretha, age ½) arrived from Lübeck at the port of Oranienbaum on 12 September 1766 on a ship under the command of Skipper Heinrich Sager.
Heinrich Haagen, his wife Barbara, and children (Johannes, age 17; Ulrich, age 11; Barbara, age 9; Georg, age 4; Margretha, age ½) are recorded on the list of colonists being transported from St. Petersburg to Saratov in 1767. Heinrich Haagen, a farmer, his wife Barbara, and children (Johannes, age 18; Ulrich, age 14; Barbara, age 11; Georg, age 5; Margaretha Maria, age 2) are recorded on the 1767 census of Hölzel in Household No. 4. They had settled there on 11 September 1767.
In 1788, Johannes Haagen moved from Hölzel to Dehler. The widow of Johannes Haagen and their children (Thomas, age 10; Johannes, age 8; Katharina, age 5; Peter, age 2) are recorded on the 1798 census of Dehler in Household No. 42.
Thomas Haag [sic] and his brothers Johann Haag [sic] and Peter Haag [sic] are recorded on the 1811 census of Dehler in Household No. 39 along with a note that Peter relocated to the colony of Brabander in 1804.
Peter Haag [sic], son of Johannes Haagen, from Dehler is recorded on the 1811 census of Brabander in Household No. 38 along with a note that he had arrived in Brabander in 1800.
In 1790, Georg Haagen moved from Hölzel to Preuss. Georg Haagen [sic] and his wife are recorded on the 1798 census of Preuss in Household No. Ps09. The death of Georg Haag in 1830 is recorded on the 1834 census of Preuss in Household No. 11.
In 1794, Ulrich Haagen and his family moved from Hölzel to Preuss. Ulrichus Haagen [sic] and his family are recorded on the 1798 census of Preuss in Household No. Ps82. The death of Ulrichus Haag [sic] in 1818 is recorded on the 1834 census of Preuss in Household No. 127.
The families of Andreas & Johannes Haag, believed to be sons of Ulrichus Haag, are recorded on the 1834 census of Seelmann in Households No. 76 & 80. In 1797, Andreas Haagen moved from Hölzel to Dehler. The death of Andreas Haagen in 1819 is recorded on the 1834 census of Dehler in Household No. 43.
The 1767 census records that Heinrich Haagen came from the German village of Nassgut in the Bamberg region. https://volgagermaninstitute.org/surnam ... 3%B6lzel-2

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Andreas Haag, a farmer, his wife Walburga, and daughter Margaretha (age 6) are recorded on the 1767 census of Hölzel in Household No. 53. They had settled there on 11 September 1767.
The 1767 census records that Andreas Haag came from the German village of Migeren [?] in Bayern.
There are no known surviving male lines of this family among the Volga German colonies. https://volgagermaninstitute.org/surnam ... 3%B6lzel-1